I want to get Stoned

You know what I mean, at some point my new knives will need to be sharpened and I would like to be able to do that myself. Having a white 2 blade, the hiromoto AS coming, and a harder AS blade here do I have to take them into account for what stones I would need. Id rather not collect a large assortment of stones, as I would like to keep it as minimum as possible while still putting on a really nice edge. I was looking at the Naniwa super stones but have no idea if they will meet my needs, or what grits I would need (I do have a 12k for my straights but probably no held here), there are two nice japanese knife dealers not that far away, and both offer small classes to teach sharpening which I would like to do, and both require stones to do the workshop so I turn to you guys for advice and suggestions

Thanks for all the help

 

There are going to be as many answers as there are members James. I would suggest a 1200 to get started http://www.japaneseknifesharpeningstore.com/Bester-1200-Sharpening-Stone-p/bstr1200.htm
or if you get flush >http://www.japaneseknifesharpeningstore.com/Dave-Martell-set-sharpening-stones-p/set1dmcore.htm

After the 5k you may want to make a strop to finish on.

Of course there are the natural stones if you win the lottery!

 

Call or email Jon Broida. He'll walk you through what you need.

 

A member who had a hand getting going is passing it forward to get me started and offered me these

Beston 500, Bester 1200, and Suehiro Rika

He PM'D in private so im not sure if he wants to be mentioned although he is more then welcome to say so

I think these should get me through my learninf curve as I figure out what my specific needs and tastes are no ?

Which is your second link by the looks of it Jim

 

Those three are a great start, and may be all you ever need.

Since you hone razors, you already have a way to flatten stones, right?

 

Yup... his name is Sam.. one of my B&B buddies and I trade gear, he has the flattening stuff so ill get these straightend out...
The sharpening clinics start next month so I can get a leg up on the learning curve and not make a mess of my knives

 

Then you're good to go. What was that Bob Dylan lyric? "Everybody must get stoned"?

 

What makes a good strop ? Better to have leather or felt ? Better to top it off with something Crox or diamond spray ?

Or just the rough side of my straight strop is good to go

 

James I admire and envy your ambition. Fountain pens, calligraphy and elegant handwriting, Japanese kitchen knives, cutting boards, and now sharpening stones.

What's next?!

 

Lol well I dont want to trust my knives to the post office to many times

My pen lineup I think is good, the calligraphy is just more practice practice.. I have knives and a cutting board (which is great, better then I thought for so cheap) have a nice knife or two best to keep them tip top so they last a lifetime, and if I ever trick a women into thinking im acceptable to have children with id have something cool to not let them touch EVER until after I was gone

I did dable in yoyos once... but to many holes in the ceiling

 

I'm mailing you what I can't handle

 

James' next thread: I want to build a yoyo proof room, any suggestions?
Toothpick's reply: save yourself the time and shorten the strings.

 

Length isnt the problem... you really have to whip them and strings break (google it and see how hard those guys toss them) specially if the cat sneaks in and chews the string pile and weakens them without tou knowing

 

Wow that is some generous PIF
You may want to play after a while but that 3 stone setup is great.. you could do far worse.

 

So just for conversations sake... is the only plus to Naniwa they are wet and go rather then soak, how about other brands ?

I know the store I was looking at for the clinic seems big on naniwa and some other stuff, tosho has their brands as well, I thought these stones were kind of beginner stuff but im beginning to see not so much its more what a person prefers then anything

And for maintaining the blade its more the two later stones unless I really need to fix a chip as the aggressive stone wouldnt be part of regular maintenance correct ?

 

Unless I need to fix a bevel I can do a lot with a 1k and 4/5k. The 8k is for grins.

I use the 400 for bevel setting or bigger work. The 140 for really big work. I've been finishing a lot of knives on a 2k Green Brick unless owner has specified to go higher.

 

I have the Beston 500, which is a great and very useful coarse stone. I also have what I believe to be the Bester 1200, as I think it's the same as the Mizuyama 1200 from Korin (although I don't have conclusive proof. That's a terrific medium grit stone. Additionally, I tried the Suehiro Rika at the home of no less a personage/curmudgeon than Jim himself a few years back.

That's quite a kit.

 

Lol thanks Jay, btw according to my onion soup thread... you need to have your CT changed... on this forum it will be hard to manage no soup

 

The king 800 is a cheap workhorse for knives. You can also use it as a bevel setter for razors pretty well.

If it were me I would go the king 800 for thinning the edge and basic honing. To refine the edge go to a BBW with slurry, then water, then CrOx on balsa, which is almost free. With that setup you could do kitchen knives, pocket knives, razors... And you only have to buy two stones, neither of which are high dollar.

 

So my three stones arrived today and I sharpened my first knife (Ya'ay),.....


It was my spyderco pocket knife not one of the big guys,.... and I didnt use the really corse one as I was afraid lol,... I had to do and redue it a bit,.. that blade is such an odd shape compared to a straight,... but its sharp again, not the best, but I think sharper then out of the box, certainly need more practice... and now think for sure im going to take a shot at one of the courses available to me