Scorpion Forge Natural Waterstone

Cris. I would like to get one of these stones. How do I order? On your web page or through here?

EDIT: Message sent through PM

 

PM reply incoming my friend!

 

I've had a chance to use this stone a bit more (and I'm not sharpening expert).

Though I have found that if I do my finish on Cris' stone the edge is significantly better at cutting hanging paper towels clean through than if I finish the edge with my 6000 stones (have tried 3 different stones). After both of these I strop on a Chromium Oxide loaded horse butt leather. The feel of Cris' stone is also very smooth and very unique =)

I haven't done too many meals recently though have not had a chance to test on produce, but will report back when I do.

 

I have a stone on loan at the moment and have only tried it on an SKD petty but didnt get the feedback i wanted and raising a slurry was challenging- so Cris,have you been using a nagura or diamond stone first or is it that PM steel may not respond so well to it?
I will try it in a honyaki tomorrow for interest and report back

 

I had some free time today, so I took out an S35VN chef's utility by Thomas Haslinger that had been sitting in a drawer for several months. I like the knife, but it is a real PITA to sharpen with synthetics. The starting edge was somewhat sharp - usable, but not quite able to push cut paper. Ten minutes or so, using moderate to heavy pressure at first, and then transitioning to very light pressure, and I had the best edge I've yet put on this knife.

Some observations for others using this stone:

• There is very little feedback. If you are used to a stone with a lot of feedback, like the most of the Gesshin series of stones, you may think that the edge is just sliding on the stone.
• Little or no slurry/mud is produced during sharpening, but that seems to be of little consequence. From my experience, slurry really isn't necessary with this stone.

Next up, some CPM 154 and CTS XHP knives from Butch.

Thanks for a very useful stone, Cris.

 

As Rick said, slurry is unnecessary on this stone. When I tried using slurry I found the best way was to make it with another stone, meaning use the slurry from THAT stone with the green stone as a base. I only really did that when trying to apply the stone to razor honing though. I can also see how it might be useful to get a particularly thick beveled, or wear resistant knife up to the level that this stone really shines at, before letting the natural surface of the stone take over.

And you're absolutely welcome Rick! I'm truly happy you're enjoying it and appreciate your insight in helping others get the best out of it.

 

Just received a water stone (gift) and wanted to post with Scorpion Forge Ko Gyuto, one Bad Ass Knife!!!



Sorry for the marginal pic. Although I agree with Cris on the ability to ONLY use this stone to completely sharpen a kitchen knife, for my purposes, I would use this much more for finishing. :cool1

 

Hey Al! Glad to see you got the stone for sure. Randy was super excited when we talked about it . I'm also glad to see it's working out for you! I'm looking forward to any updates you might have as time goes on!

 

I have had some more time with this stone and I have to say of all the natural stones I have tried this is easily my favorite for double bevel sharpening! (Nakayama, Aotos, etc.) This stone leaves a great sharp and aggressive edge that I can't really seem to match with my other naturals. That being said my other naturals have a place in my sharpening/polishing regime for single bevels =)

I would highly recommend anyone who is thinking about this stone to get one!

 

Damn you guys! I definitely don't need any more stones in my progression, but this thread keep tempting me.

 

Here's the neat thing, Anton, you could add it to your progression (as a finishing stone), or use it alone to get a very workable edge for the busy professional chef. Point being: one stone touch up's during the week (stropping, etc.) I have had great results using in both scenarios. op

 

Thanks for the props guys! Again...it's awesome to know that my results weren't an anomaly, nor were my thoughts on them overblown. In addition, since I've sent out stones from what...four slabs now?...its fairly safe to say the supply is consistent for the time being.

It's also awesome to see that they are a value to you guys.

All good things .

 

One other thing I'd like to add...

Please, feel free to experiment with different surface preparations. My regime ends with 220 grit loose silicon carbide, then rubbing the stone for a few dozen passes against another finished stone. The knocks the 'tooth' off from the silicon carbide, leaving a really stable, enduring surface. So, if you feel your stone is less aggressive than you would like, try hitting it with a coarse DMT, or 120-220 grit wet/dry paper on a piece of glass or granite. This is also how you will likely be refreshing it anyway, and being the nuts we are, I KNOW you'll enjoy the experiment.

If you feel that you've 'wrecked' it as compared to how it was...send it back to me, and I'll take 5 minutes to restore the original surface for you .